February 2, 2009

So Much for those Historic Bynum vs. Oden Match-ups

Wait!  Shhhhhhhh.  Did you hear that?  Yep, that was Andrew Bynum’s MCL tearing.  Lakers’ fans’ hearts shattering.   Plus his career probably a step closer to ending. 

Anyone else NOT feeling bad for Lakers’ fans right now?  How much garbage was thrown at Greg Oden for hurting his foot after returning from his micro-fracture surgery?  How much hate was poured out from L.A. fans onto Portland about the next Sam Bowie?  How about the comparisons between Bynum and Oden and how much better Bynum would be?

Well look who’s laughing now Hollywood?  Let’s just say I’d rather have a guy coming back full strength from micro-fracture and tweaking his foot a little than the guy that just followed up a dislocated kneecap with a torn MCL

Maybe the Lakers should have pushed FOR a suspension following that absurd Gerald Wallace attack?

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sterles 2/2/09, 2:09 PM  

I am trying to contain my visible happiness. I worry about too much celebration... karma can be a b*tch.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 2:35 PM  

I hear ya...maybe my blog will have to undergo microfracture on it's feed or something? :p

jacob 2/2/09, 2:41 PM  

Come on dude, it wasn't even the same knee. Bynum's injuries are no more related to each other than Oden's. Let's hope they both have long, healthy careers.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 2:44 PM  

All right, you've still got Oden on the floor.

Have fun being knocked out in the first round and watching the playoffs from home, huh?

Anonymous 2/2/09, 3:03 PM  

not even the same knee idiot. use your brain. oden had injury issues comin into the league and still has them, bynum suffered two fluke injuries caused by his own teammates. blazeoflove? more like of blaze of stupidity. thank god their is no author's name to attack cause this guy seriously has no idea what he is talking about.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 3:03 PM  

I don't know many guys that can have All-Star caliber careers after having 2 major knee injuries in back-to-back years. Ask Gilbert Arenas how life is.

First round knock out? At this point, the Blazers are growing, and reaching the playoffs is a major goal. The Lakers were supposed to win the title this year. See the difference?

Anonymous 2/2/09, 3:06 PM  

Explain to me how a "fluke" injury is any different than just being injured? Especially seeing the severity of Bynum's compared to Oden's; at this point I'd take "injury issues" over two blown out knees or "fluke" injuries.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 3:18 PM  

"blazeoflove? more like of blaze of stupidity. thank god their is no author's name to attack cause this guy seriously has no idea what he is talking about."

If you're going to call someone stupid, you might think on brushing up on the proper use of the word "their." Too funny.

Samash 2/2/09, 3:21 PM  

"Plus his career probably a step closer to ending." Wow, isn't that some wishful thinking on your part? A career ending MCL injury?

And what, now the Oden v. Bynum comparisons come to an end? Close the book, the rest is history?

Nevermind that these two guys just turned 21 (or in oden's case 35). Nevermind that this is hardly the career-endangering injury that a blown ACL or microfracture surgery is. Bynum will be back. And we'll just see who's better. Don't celebrate too early. There's still a fourth quarter to play, Portland (more on this later).

The fact is, Bynum is way more talented and skilled than Oden. You know it, and I know it. Oden's physical gifts are the only reason why he is in the NBA. He is a plodding, uncoordinated beast. A beast nonetheless, but he makes Shaq look like a damn ballet dancer with his lack of grace.

And for your information, I, as a Laker fan wasn't taking part in any kind of schadenfreude at Oden's injury problems. Why? Because Oden or no Oden, the Blazers can't handle the Lakers. He just doesn't matter that much. And the other reason why. Because Karma is a bitch and I hope the author of this blog post should feel that special twinge of regret should some extremely unfortunate fate fall upon the Blazers.

You know, like the fourth quarter in game 7 of the 2000 Western Conference.

Samash 2/2/09, 3:24 PM  

You know, like the fourth quarter in game 7 of the 2000 Western Conference FINALS.

(Sorry for the re-post. I had to make sure you all got that last point.)

Anonymous 2/2/09, 3:26 PM  

Comparing a guy's skills who's 3 years deep into an NBA career with a guy .5 years in is about as legitimate as a Lakers fan using the word schadenfreude on this blog. Which just happened...I think I just got da dumber.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 3:26 PM  

I will never, ever feel bad for the L*kers. Never. Not for any reason. I've honestly never met a L*kers fan who wasn't completely over-the-top obnoxious about it. I've tried being a "fellow sports fan" and respecting their love for their team, but I've yet to meet one who cares to follow suit.

However, in spite of seriously injuring Gerald Wallace, I do feel bad for Bynum. He deserved to be suspended and fined (or a punctured lung and a broken rib), but I won't say he deserved this.

You have the love the morons showing up to hate on your blog that can't spell or use the the proper context of there/their/they're and your/you're. Stupid people drive me nuts.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 3:39 PM  

Kobe's a rapist, Bynum's the next Bowie! Burn in hellllll Laker fans!

ha ha ha ha


Anonymous 2/2/09, 3:41 PM  

Bynum crying like a little baby after idiot Kobe runs into him. Karma bit Bynum in the butt, or should I say in the knee really bad. Laker fans, enjoy watching the Trail Blazers become the next great NBA Dynasty!! And enjoy living in the smog filled sespool of Los Angeles.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 3:47 PM  

Finally! Some Blazer fan love!

(By the way, I do feel bad for Bynum, just not Lakers fans or the Lakers.)

Samash 2/2/09, 3:52 PM  

"Comparing a guy's skills who's 3 years deep into an NBA career with a guy .5 years ..."

Hey, Oden played big time college basketball. That's not for nothing.

Bynum has played more NBA minutes, sure. But, not so many more minutes that comparing them at this point is ridiculous. The fact remains, they're both 21 years old.

Either way, here's a bit more schadenfreude. What was your favorite part of the Laker's 15 point comeback in game 7 of the 2000 Western Conference Finals? The part where Brian Shaw was dropping all those comeback threes? The 13 consecutive Blazer misses? Or the part where Kobe BROKE Pippen's ankles at the top of the key and lofted that glorious, almost too high lob pass to the Big Fella who then brought the house down with a huge, thunderous dunk?

You know what my favorite was? Brian Shaw's three that shouldn't have counted at the end of the third quarter. Because screw the Blazers, that's why.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 3:59 PM  

I actually could care less about the 2000 Western Conference "FINALS" which has absolutely nothing to do with topic of Bynum's career at its end. Try to stay on topic here...

Plus, comparing "big time college basketball" to the NBA experience is about as legitimate as the statement you made in your previous comment.

And for an added bonus, please head over to ESPN.com, take a look at Bynum's stats during his first 2 years in the league and then curl up in a ball and start to wimper.

Samash 2/2/09, 4:04 PM  

This blog wants to find satisfaction in Bynum's injury, fine. I know even you don't approve of that. I will find enjoyment in the 2000 Western Conference Finals.

And stay on topic??? Who made you boss of the internet.

As for Bynum v. Oden, why don't we just wait and see. Because the whole point of my initial post was: Bynum will be back.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 4:10 PM  

first off you're a huge idiot if you actually think that gerald wallace thing was anything more than an accident bynum waited by the buss after the game to see if he was okay, even the coach of the bobcats said he thought a flagrant was enough so get your facts straight, second portland better than the lakers? HA please just check the record 37-9, portland wouldnt get past the lakers in the playoffs if their lives depended on it , we all know you'd rather be in LA than portland but jeeze the jealousy is a little malicious at this point, i mean celebrating an injury of bynum just because he made oden his bitch? come on.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 4:11 PM  

Because I'm the boss of this blog. :P

Anonymous 2/2/09, 4:21 PM  

born and raised in la, lakers have always been my team. i was just wondering though...where is all this hate you speak about regarding oden? i don't think any of us laker fans really cared that much about oden in the first place, let alone have enough hate for the guy that it came pouring out of our city. not to put the blazers down, but i think your team was the least we were worried about. so getting all excited over another player's major injury just seems kind of bitchy, don't you think? i didn't even know that we were rivals.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 4:32 PM  

all other points aside..

i've lived in LA and in Portland.. there is no contest.. living in LA is hell compared to the beauty of Portland

Anonymous 2/2/09, 4:50 PM  

You're right, Blaze. When the LAL kicked the crap out of the Blazers last month, Bynum's FOUR POINTS was crucial. Enjoy your first-round match-up with the Hornets on the road.

Awesome blurry cheerleader photos, btw.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 5:03 PM  

When was the last time the flakers won in Portland? 13 beatdowns in a row! Even with your boy odom trying to start sh*t in our huddle. EVERY la fan is BANDWAGON. When they suck, where are you? Awfully quite, but when the league pulls some very questionable crap to land Gasol in la so the crybaby rapist doesn't leave town you all dress up like queer day in Frisco and join the parade.
For the record, I wish bynum wouldn't have gotten hurt, 'cause I want you at full strenght when we beat you down!

Anonymous 2/2/09, 5:29 PM  

hahhaa you think this puts the blazers in the same world as the lakers even with a healthy oden? the blazers are good. but they are a high school team compared to the lakers. at least you will make the playoffs this year but thats about it. i dont udnerstand how anyone can wish bad on bynum or oden they are such great guys. kellex u got issues. and if u want some bring it. primevil60 on aim

Anonymous 2/2/09, 5:32 PM  

Did I once say anything to tone of "I'm glad Bynum is hurt"? Absolutely not.

The entire point of the article is to laugh at Lakers fans. I actually said in a comment earlier that I feel bad for Bynum. Who wants to see anyone get injured?

Lakers fans...sheesh.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 6:12 PM  

i, a laker fan genuinely fealt bad for oden when he got injuired for the year last season, and messed up his foot in his very first NBA game. Who doesnt want to see two teams go at each other with each other's best players? I know some Laker idiot, probably bandwagon fans most likely said some stupid stuff about the man, but come on, you know there are dumb fans for every team. Just show some class man. I know you are bitter about those guys raggin on Oden, but dont do the very same thing you are bitter about to another team. You pretty much said at the begenning of the blog that bynum will never come back the same ("dont know how many guys have all-star caliber careers after two consecutive knee injuries...") so dont act like you have been a little angel, cause that is exactly what those people said about Oden. Did you like it? No. Do I like what you are saying? No. Were either deserved? NO. Do you see what Im saying? (and just for your info Ive been a Laker fan since I was in the crib man. Literally. I got pictures of me with a little lakers shirt on watchin the 1990 finals man. blame my dad haha)

Samash 2/2/09, 6:18 PM  

"And for an added bonus, please head over to ESPN.com, take a look at Bynum's stats during his first 2 years in the league and then curl up in a ball and start to wimper."

So you want to compare the 21 year old (albeit rookie) Oden's stats to 17 year old Bynum's stats?

Yes, Bynum has played more years in the league. But he was EXTREMELY young during those years (youngest NBA player in history, I believe) and was eased into the rotation. Is that different than "big time college basketball"? Of course. But would you label that with a general tag like the "NBA experience." Probably not. And is it better or worse for development as a player? That's debatable, depending on where you stand on the league age minimum issue and the value of playing college basketball.

My point is, Oden didn't materialize from a vacuum and is suddenly a rookie on the Blazers. You think it's unfair for me to compare Bynum now to Oden now, OK fair enough. But then I contend that it's inappropriate to compare Bynum's rookie year to Oden's rookie year just because they have the arbitrary title of "rookie." It's just two different situations given Bynum's extreme youth.

But I maintain that comparing the 21 year old Bynum to the 21 year old Oden is a more appropriate comparison than "rookie" Bynum to "rookie" Oden. That's just my opinion.

Really, the best comparison will be made in five years. So maybe we should just sit back and enjoy the ride. Here's to both of them being healthy so we can find out who's right.

And since you are the boss of this blog, it's only on topic from here on out, my friend. But I will say this. Just because you wish no personal harm on Andrew Bynum the man does NOT make taunting Laker fans because of his injury any more defensible. It's just bad taste to use something as unfortunate as a long term injury and use it in that context. You taunt opposing fans with tales of previous victories over their team (i.e. the 2000 Western Conference Finals), things that involve actual competition, not with things like injuries.

You may mock my use of the word schadenfreude; I am taking offense with your practice of it.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 6:26 PM  

Alright you're going to make fun of Laker fans? Make fun of your own fans. Apparently Blazer fans don't know that cesspool is spelled this way and that a "sespool" doesn't exist. Attacking grammar is usually the worst way to go on the internetz guys, especially when most people are in a rush. Kellex, you're acting most unprofessional as a blogger and the only reason you got so many hits is because Ball Don't Lie linked to you. Be careful or else you'll get rammed like that other blog that said that Bynum didn't wait for Gerald Wallace at the bus.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 6:39 PM  

Ball Dont Lie is the only reason? We'll just let you think that. :)

88: Great comment, and by no means am I acting like an angel. But at the same time, many of you are taking this waaaaaaaaay out of context.

Did I take a cheap shot at Lakers fans? Hell yes I did. Did I take a shot at Bynum? No I did not.

Glad that Lakers fans came to visit and vent. Nothing like some good conversation. :)

And Samash, I dont have time to read your books. All I saw was something about comparing a 17 year old with a 21 year old and realized you will never get it.

Nathan 2/2/09, 6:45 PM  

There are some retarded people on the internet...

Look Laker fans, pissing and moaning will not change the author's mind and will not help Bynum heal faster.
LOL at the retard who offered to fight and gave his AIM. Dude would risk life and limb (because that is what happens in any physical altercation, you might think you're bad, but the other guy might have bad friends) because someone said something bad about a player on his team? Geez, go look at porn or play in traffic or something. Whatever you do, don't reproduce, or vote...

Unknown 2/2/09, 7:08 PM  

You gotta be kidding me right? Bynum's injury was an accident from someone else, whereas Oden's injury early in the season was due to his own.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 7:24 PM  

And your point? He's still got a torn MCL right? And all Oden had was a sprained foot. How are you not seeing the difference?

Anonymous 2/2/09, 7:30 PM  

lol @ you. I wonder where you hang around, thinking that the entire city of LA gives more of a crap about what that ugly sasquatch turns out to be in comparison to the rest of the country. Everyone thinks Same Bowie, I MEAN ODEN, is looking like a bust. And even if he does start averaging 15-10, the Blazers won't get anywhere this year or the next. Darius Miles F-T-W

Anonymous 2/2/09, 7:32 PM  

Spoken like a true Lakers fan.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 7:38 PM  

With or without Bynum, the Lakers are still a championship-level team. The Blazers... on the other hand... won't ever make it passed the 1st round of the playoffs.

Samash 2/2/09, 7:40 PM  

You don't have to read the book. Just read this part.

" Just because you wish no personal harm on Andrew Bynum the man does NOT make taunting Laker fans because of his injury any more defensible. It's just bad taste to use something as unfortunate as a long term injury and use it in that context. You taunt opposing fans with tales of previous victories over their team (i.e. the 2000 Western Conference Finals), things that involve actual competition, not with things like injuries.

You may mock my use of the word schadenfreude; I am taking offense with your practice of it."

Anonymous 2/2/09, 7:47 PM  

How many times do I have to say that I would never "wish" harm or injury on someone. I said at least 2 times now that I feel bad for Bynum and that the whole point of this post was to take a shot at Lakers fans which I successfully did.

This is the last time I'll explain this.

Samash 2/2/09, 7:50 PM  

And by the way, saying you don't have time to read my books, is a cop out. Read it and bring a response if you can.

And if you don't, I'll assume you can't.

And I will win this stupid comment battle in my mind.

It's up to you.

Samash 2/2/09, 7:52 PM  

You are the one who doesn't get it.

I am condemning you for taking a shot at Laker fans with your only ammunition being that Bynum got hurt.

That's just weak. And the last time I'll explain this.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 7:57 PM  

May I remind you that the Blazers are a very young team, playing multiple rookies while learning how to play in the league. And yet they are expected to make the playoffs this year. You have to say it's scary considering their potential. Time is on their side, and let it bake a bit.

I hate to disappoint you, but a glimpse of Bynum and Oden tells me Oden is a beast and will be a much better player than Bynum. Oden is more talented offensively than you think. It is just that he needs to broaden his offensive repertoire. He was not required to reach deep in his bag of offensive tricks in college or high school so there is no need to state the obvious here.

I don't think LA will win a championship this year. Luck will run out of time for them.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 7:58 PM  

Comment battle? I took an amazing shot at Lakers fans, got them all riled up, got you to write at least 3 books explaining the western conference finals and who knows what else, and you think you have won?

This lead of mine is growing exponentially.

Glad to have you hanging around though. :)

Fundefined 2/2/09, 8:00 PM  

How mean spirited, for a blazers blog you sure do focus alot on the lakers. Despite your claim of feeling bad for Bynum, your post is clearly mocking him and hoping that his career ends as suggested by the title.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 8:07 PM  

hey laker fan - SUCK IT. Bynum is TOAST

Anonymous 2/2/09, 8:18 PM  

Blazer fan here:

I really hope Bynum comes back strong. I don't wish an injury upon anyone. Even Darius Miles.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 8:24 PM  

Yeah at this point, it would be pointless to wish it on Darius. :P

Anonymous 2/2/09, 8:45 PM  

i do hope bynums career ends, i hope kobe gets hit by a bus and dies. my hate for the lakers has no bounds

Anonymous 2/2/09, 8:49 PM  

@ above comment. that is badass. the L*kers worse than murderers, rapists, pedophiles, AIDS, Cancer, the Taliban and Neo-Nazis.

Anonymous 2/2/09, 9:10 PM  

Fuck the lakers. Fuck their fans. end of story

Anonymous 2/3/09, 3:04 AM  


pxilpooshr 2/3/09, 3:16 AM  

another Blazers fan here:

L*kers need an aggressive big man to win. Hey Kobe, how's my MCL taste?

Blaze of Love? Stop pissing off the Laker legions. It's like shouting on the roof of the farm house when the fields are full of zombies. You're sure to be surrounded and we don't have enough bullets.

Anonymous 2/3/09, 11:39 AM  

What a classy crowd of Blazer fans. Lots of Laker fans behave like trash, for sure, but now you have just stooped down to their level, all because some particularly bad Laker fans got YOU riled up in the past. Now you gleefully retaliate at the first sign of Laker misfortune, but made yourselves look petty and nasty in the process. Nice work. Hope the group therapy works

Anonymous 2/3/09, 7:27 PM  

Come on Blazer fans, taking pleasure in, or wishing injury on players isn't our thing. If Anything, I want the Lakers to be at 110%, so when we beat them it's that much sweeter!

Anonymous 2/3/09, 10:36 PM  

Hey, doesn't Kobe know a good knee doctor in Eagle, Colorado?

Doesn't he also know a nice hotel to stay at in Eagle?

Anonymous 4/11/09, 11:58 AM  

I don't get the Bynum hype or Oden bust talk? Yes, Oden has been injured alot, but so has Bynum.

Career stats are very similar except games played:
Oden-- 8.8 ppg 7.0 rpg 1.14 blk
Bynum- 8.7 ppg 6.2 rpg 1.46 blk

That is a draw

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